@David_Moss just want to say thanks for providing updates. I think this is generally a good signal that things are getting done well

@AntonMakiievskyi Amazing! Thank you so much Anton!

Hey! If it’s still relevant, please re-open the grant application and I’ll fund it

@yagudin Good point, we'll collect subjective impressions as well.

The project will keep you up at night! Along with data, I would be interested in short self-reports about how you three were feeling on each morning/night.

AI Safety is suffering from Elitism, induced by scarce financial resources that then also have to be used to accommodate high-paying jobs to make carreer switches more attractive. Even though the interest in AI Safety has grown tremendously, these dynamics are still in place and almost no one offers low entry points for early career individuals (e.g. students in undergraduate studies).

Apart is the only organization I know that goes against this elitist trend by offering support and guidance to virtually anyone who is seriously interested in AI Safety research, no matter their previous qualifications. The (AI Safety) world needs more research and field-building organizations like Apart, as otherwise the field of AI Safety will not manage to develop fast enough to solve fundamental issues before it's too late.

Apart had a tremendous impact on the development of my research skills and interests, and I am grateful for their existence. This organization cannot cease to exist, as it would be detrimental to the AI Safety landscape.

I remember reading this by Amanda Askell years ago, and it stuck with me that optimising for "time spent conscious" is totally neglected compared to "time spent alive" when it comes to any discussion on longevity.

https://www.vox.com/2015/2/4/7972077/against-oversleeping

Interesting idea, to be executed by someone I consider to be competent, happy to support it.

I participated Apart's security evaluations hackathon with a friend last May, and it helped me get in the foot in the door and start exploring the AI safety technical research space. I believe that Apart's hackathons and other programs are a critical part of the talent pipeline for the AI safety community and it would be a shame if they had to shut down due to lack of funding.

It's an interesting idea and well thought out. I liked the original article, and personally require 8.5 hours of sleep or otherwise feel significantly worse. It would be great if there was a way to reclaim an hour or so without any unmanageable negative side effects.

• i find niplav, sam, & NMP each independently to be clear, incisive thinkers, which (a) makes me think this is more likely to work, and (b) makes me more inclined to want to fund them on whatever they want to work on;

• it’d be better if sleep was less prevelant;

• from a quick skim (& no background in the area), this seems like a reasonable solution to try.

donating $100 to show my seriousness, though i realize $100 directly won’t make much difference.

Apart research offers an accessible entry point to AI safety research and it would be a tremendous loss if it didn't exist anymore - I don't believe there's another organization that does what they do!

I first got into mech interp by going to an Apart Hackathon. I have enjoyed every Apart Hackathon that I've participated in and found them to be extremely productive.

Approving this project and making a small donation in support. It would be great to reduce the amount of time I & others are required to sleep, so I'm very curious about how this experiment goes. I've also previously worked with Sam Harsimony way back when Manifold was first starting on charity prediction markets (it was his idea!)

Yeah, the blogpost was spurred by the intent to run the experiment, which is now going to happen.

strong team with nose in the game

Good luck!

Love it! isaak.net/sleepless

Approving this project. As a sidenote, I'm very grateful for Gavin's clear writeup explaining why he wanted to fund this!

AI 2027 was great 👍

Apart Research forms a critical entry point to contributing meaningfully to research into the powerful technologies poised to shape our future. It is absolutely essential that we expand participation in AI ethics and safety research beyond the institutions that have the most money and power. As a widely recognized and growingly accessible nonprofit, Apart is uniquely positioned to elevate global, diverse, and underrepresented voices in this critical conversation. I'm personally thankful for Apart as an early career researcher without a graduate degree who is now equipped to contribute to the research community; something I previously thought was out of reach.

I also read <https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Nmp6FWAj3mcuLu6H6/sleep-need-reduction-therapies-1> and thought it was interesting

@David_Moss just want to say thanks for providing updates. I think this is generally a good signal that things are getting done well

@AntonMakiievskyi Amazing! Thank you so much Anton!

Hey! If it’s still relevant, please re-open the grant application and I’ll fund it

@yagudin Good point, we'll collect subjective impressions as well.

The project will keep you up at night! Along with data, I would be interested in short self-reports about how you three were feeling on each morning/night.

AI Safety is suffering from Elitism, induced by scarce financial resources that then also have to be used to accommodate high-paying jobs to make carreer switches more attractive. Even though the interest in AI Safety has grown tremendously, these dynamics are still in place and almost no one offers low entry points for early career individuals (e.g. students in undergraduate studies).

Apart is the only organization I know that goes against this elitist trend by offering support and guidance to virtually anyone who is seriously interested in AI Safety research, no matter their previous qualifications. The (AI Safety) world needs more research and field-building organizations like Apart, as otherwise the field of AI Safety will not manage to develop fast enough to solve fundamental issues before it's too late.

Apart had a tremendous impact on the development of my research skills and interests, and I am grateful for their existence. This organization cannot cease to exist, as it would be detrimental to the AI Safety landscape.

I remember reading this by Amanda Askell years ago, and it stuck with me that optimising for "time spent conscious" is totally neglected compared to "time spent alive" when it comes to any discussion on longevity.

https://www.vox.com/2015/2/4/7972077/against-oversleeping

Interesting idea, to be executed by someone I consider to be competent, happy to support it.

I participated Apart's security evaluations hackathon with a friend last May, and it helped me get in the foot in the door and start exploring the AI safety technical research space. I believe that Apart's hackathons and other programs are a critical part of the talent pipeline for the AI safety community and it would be a shame if they had to shut down due to lack of funding.

It's an interesting idea and well thought out. I liked the original article, and personally require 8.5 hours of sleep or otherwise feel significantly worse. It would be great if there was a way to reclaim an hour or so without any unmanageable negative side effects.

• i find niplav, sam, & NMP each independently to be clear, incisive thinkers, which (a) makes me think this is more likely to work, and (b) makes me more inclined to want to fund them on whatever they want to work on;

• it’d be better if sleep was less prevelant;

• from a quick skim (& no background in the area), this seems like a reasonable solution to try.

donating $100 to show my seriousness, though i realize $100 directly won’t make much difference.

Apart research offers an accessible entry point to AI safety research and it would be a tremendous loss if it didn't exist anymore - I don't believe there's another organization that does what they do!

I first got into mech interp by going to an Apart Hackathon. I have enjoyed every Apart Hackathon that I've participated in and found them to be extremely productive.

Approving this project and making a small donation in support. It would be great to reduce the amount of time I & others are required to sleep, so I'm very curious about how this experiment goes. I've also previously worked with Sam Harsimony way back when Manifold was first starting on charity prediction markets (it was his idea!)

Yeah, the blogpost was spurred by the intent to run the experiment, which is now going to happen.

strong team with nose in the game

Good luck!

Love it! isaak.net/sleepless

Approving this project. As a sidenote, I'm very grateful for Gavin's clear writeup explaining why he wanted to fund this!

AI 2027 was great 👍

Apart Research forms a critical entry point to contributing meaningfully to research into the powerful technologies poised to shape our future. It is absolutely essential that we expand participation in AI ethics and safety research beyond the institutions that have the most money and power. As a widely recognized and growingly accessible nonprofit, Apart is uniquely positioned to elevate global, diverse, and underrepresented voices in this critical conversation. I'm personally thankful for Apart as an early career researcher without a graduate degree who is now equipped to contribute to the research community; something I previously thought was out of reach.

I also read <https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Nmp6FWAj3mcuLu6H6/sleep-need-reduction-therapies-1> and thought it was interesting